[Buddha-l] a question to diamond sutra

[M.B. Schiekel]

Am 23.09.2010 09:41, schrieb Dan Lusthaus:
> 
>> Na sa Subhute bodhisattvo vaktavyo yasya-atma-samjna
>> pravarteta, sattva-samjna va jiva-samjna va pudgala-samjna va pravarteta.
>>
>> And Kumarajiva translates
>> 我相 for atman-samjna, 人相 for pudgala-samjna, 眾生相 for sattva-samjna
>> and 壽者相 for jiva-samjna.
> 
> This may have been obvious to you already, but in case not, the 相 is 
> actually and entrenched typo, in a sense. The more standard equivalent for 
> saṃjñā is 想, ...


Dear Dan,

your answers are always very helpful and enlightening for me, Thank you.

> East Asian Buddhism has many examples of entrenched substitutions (for lack 
> of a better label), some becoming very significant conceptual foundations 
> for East Asian thought -- perhaps the most famous (if unrecognized) example 
> being the concept of Buddha-nature, based on substituting 性 (nature) for 姓 
> (gotra; clan, family), i.e., buddha-gotra becomes buddha-nature. 

Whow, I didn't knew that before. Very interesting :-)

But coming back to 壽者相 or 壽者想 for jiva-samjna.
壽 is (long) life, isn't? So is 'lifespan' justified?
Or is the Sanskrit version refering to the Jain concept of a jiva?


> Have you checked the corresponding passage in Xuanzang's Diamond
> Sutra translation (and the other Chinese versions)?

Until now I've not checked.


Thank you again,
bernhard

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