[Buddha-l] Non-arising

[Lidewij Niezink]

That is also how I have come to experience it Michael. Moreover, I
think it is an illusion in its own to separate cognition from emotion.
One does not come or go without the other.

Lidewij

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Milton said: "They also serve who only stand and wait."

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2010/2/19 Kansei　還西 <kansei at shingonan.de>:
> I am not sure about the issue concerning the emotions. I doubt it that when
> one has a certain level of realization
> or insight that this doesn't produce negative or disturbing emotions
> anymore.
> I think it is a matter of how far one has the capacity not to be carried
> away be these disturbing emotions,
> being able not to be trapped by them. Or, having the power to stay present
> in these emotions without being
> pulled into the patterns they start to run. Then there is nothing wrong with
> experiencing these emotions, one
> can even say they do not disturb one anymore. They are just another
> experience "in the world of coming and
> going", to use the phrase Bernhard put so nicely.
>
> best wishes,
>
> michael
>
>
>
> JKirkpatrick wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Michael, I should have said 'demonstration' instead of
>> 'proof.'
>>
>> But what I was gettting at is the issue of the emotions, which
>> produce obscurances even when the cognitive realisation has been
>> attained. Could one say that long practice deals with the emotional
>> hindrances?-- but that isn't said by such cognitively-oriented
>> claims as the one under discussion (i.e., apprehending the true
>> nature of things).
>> Best, Joanna
>>
>>
>>
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>> Subject: Re: [Buddha-l] Non-arising
>>
>> true realization of emptiness is not exclusive, it includes
>> everything, every dharma, meaning every experience one has.
>> That's the way I understand it. So then, yes the suffering of
>> attachment ends, because one has an insight into the true nature
>> of things, of which emptiness is one.
>>
>> with best wishes,
>>
>> michael
>
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