[Buddha-l] Sabba Sutta
Bruce Burrill
brburl at charter.net
Wed Nov 26 03:37:43 MST 2008
Here is Bill Waldron's direct response (via me,
since I asked to respond to jkirk's msg) to the Alaya-vijnana question:
The mode of nonconscious mental processes called
Alaya-vijnana influence perception in a variety
of indispensable ways, all of which are expressed
in the traditional literature using traditional
technical jargon. This means that other ways of
expressing this are all interpretations, useful but not quite the same.
Alaya-vijnana is thought to underlie and support
ordinary, conscious experience insofar as this
level of nonconscious mental processes provide an
elaborate basis for any cognition, any
perception, to occur at all. Alaya-vijnana is a
name we give to these supporting processes.
Think of everything that must be happening in
your brain/mind in order for you to perceive,
say, a flower, or to understand language. We are
conscious of only the slightest part of these
processes. The rest are outside of our awareness,
but they must be occurring this is a safe and
attested inference in order for us to re-cognize anything.
To be more specific, when we cognize a flower, we
recognize that it is a flower because we have
had previous experience with flowers, which laid
impressions in the brain/mind, that are
triggered when we see flowers again. Included
in these impressions are names and concepts that
help us cognize and re-cognize 'flowers.' When we
hear a language we know, we typically focus on
the meaning rather than, say, the phonemes, the
morphemes or the syntax (sounds, words, grammar).
As with perception, all of thisfor the most
partoperates automatically, unconsciously,, and without special effort.
By contrast, a new-born baby does not have
the capacity to distinguish shapes, to cognize
objects or to understand words. The neural
networks created through visual experience take
time; our visual faculties are trained, as it
were, to see certain visual configurations and
eventually cognize them as specific objects.
Languagenaming and conceptsrefers to to and reinforces such re-cognitions.
The capacity to perceive flowers is thus a
learned capacity, and flowers are a complex
product of physical and mental processes,
processes whose enabling capacities have been
built up over time and which operate
automatically and simultaneously in every
perception. These underlying processes are a bit
like the roots of a plant, which are in constant
and supporting interaction with the leaves above
ground. Perceived objects, in this sense, are
complex products, rather than simple causes, of perceptual processes.
The underlying (or subliminal below the
threshold) cognitive processes that support and
underlie perception in this fashion are what are
referred as Alaya-vijnana. This analysis of
perception is based upon the Samdhinirmocanca
Sutra and the Yogacarabhumi, and is largely in
accord with prevailing analyses in cognitive
science, such as found in Antonio Damasio's work, for example.
If you want even simpler English (but less direct
exposition) read Thich Nhat Hanh's Understanding the Mind.
Bill Waldron
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