[Buddha-l] Time Is Not Real
curt
curt at cola.iges.org
Fri Feb 10 19:19:15 MST 2006
The question of whether or not motion is possible was a hot topic back
in the day in Athens. One time a young hotshot would-be philosopher
tracked down Diogenes ("Socrates gone mad" - as Plato described him) and
started explaining to Diogenes how motion was impossible. The young
fellow felt that he had finally come up with an airtight case. Diogenes
listened for few minutes and then stood up and walked away.
- Curt
P.S. Several centuries after this alleged event, Diogenes Laertius wrote
his "Lives of the Ancient Philosophers". The later Diogenes was an
Epicurean, but he seems to have also had an affinity for Cynics like his
namesake. Diogenes' Laertius' chapter on Diogenes the Cynic reads like a
Zen "recorded sayings of" tract. Diogenes (the Cynics') teacher even
carried a big stick and used it to chase away people who wanted to be
his student.
Bernie Simon wrote:
> I think if Nagarjuna were alive today, instead of writing the MMK,
> he'd be putting up a crank web site on the Internet explaining why
> causality and motion are impossible.
>
> "Here is another way of looking at it. According to the definition of
> motion, to move from one position to another takes a certain time
> interval. Time is an evolution parameter that is used in physics to
> denote change, regardless of the type or rate of change. Therefore, to
> change position in time would require a meta-time, i.e., a second time
> dimension orthogonal to the first. This meta-time would itself require
> a meta-meta-time and so forth. Before we have time (pun intended) to
> realize it, we find ourselves mired in an infinite regress dilemma."
>
> http://www.rebelscience.org/Crackpots/notorious.htm
>
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