[Buddha-l] Time Is Not Real

curt curt at cola.iges.org
Fri Feb 10 19:19:15 MST 2006


The question of whether or not motion is possible was a hot topic back 
in the day in Athens. One time a young hotshot would-be philosopher 
tracked down Diogenes ("Socrates gone mad" - as Plato described him) and 
started explaining to Diogenes how motion was impossible. The young 
fellow felt that he had finally come up with an airtight case. Diogenes 
listened for few minutes and then stood up and walked away.
- Curt
P.S. Several centuries after this alleged event, Diogenes Laertius wrote 
his "Lives of the Ancient Philosophers". The later Diogenes was an 
Epicurean, but he seems to have also had an affinity for Cynics like his 
namesake. Diogenes' Laertius' chapter on Diogenes the Cynic reads like a 
Zen "recorded sayings of" tract. Diogenes (the Cynics') teacher even 
carried a big stick and used it to chase away people who wanted to be 
his student.

Bernie Simon wrote:

> I think if Nagarjuna were alive today, instead of writing the MMK, 
> he'd be putting up a crank web site on the Internet explaining why 
> causality and motion are impossible.
>
> "Here is another way of looking at it. According to the definition of 
> motion, to move from one position to another takes a certain time 
> interval. Time is an evolution parameter that is used in physics to 
> denote change, regardless of the type or rate of change. Therefore, to 
> change position in time would require a meta-time, i.e., a second time 
> dimension orthogonal to the first. This meta-time would itself require 
> a meta-meta-time and so forth. Before we have time (pun intended) to 
> realize it, we find ourselves mired in an infinite regress dilemma."
>
> http://www.rebelscience.org/Crackpots/notorious.htm
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