On Feb 10, 2006, at 7:19 PM, curt wrote: > Diogenes' Laertius' chapter on Diogenes the Cynic reads like a Zen > "recorded sayings of" tract. Diogenes (the Cynics') teacher even > carried a big stick and used it to chase away people who wanted to > be his student. > So thats where Prof. Hayes learned that trick.