[Buddha-l] buddha-l Digest, Vol 103, Issue 6

[Antonio Ferreira-Jardim]

What?! Ethnicity isn't vague or plastic to a Uighur or an Uzbek or a Tajik!
Those appellations mean very real things to those communities, hence the
ongoing conflicts.

Why would ethnicity need to be synonymous with nationalism in order to
demolish your claim? You made a particular claim that these movements were
grounded in religion but now you are eel-wriggling because you are caught
defending an absolutist position that is contrary to the facts. Ethnicity
and religion underpin these movements. Admit the correction and proceed
with filling our inboxes with rants that can be very succinctly summarised
as "Islam = bad". Let the boring aphorisms and borderline mendacity
continue!


On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Dan Lusthaus <vasubandhu at earthlink.net>wrote:

>
>  Strawman. I'm demolishing your claim that "... muslim resistance movements
>> in China and the former Soviet
>> Union are not grounded in nationalist identities, but religious ones". It
>> would be more correct to say that ethnicity AND religious identity ground
>> these resistance movements.
>>
>
> If that is demolishing my claim, then ethnicity would have to be synonmous
> with nationalistic. Otherwise what I said stands.
>
> But it's much easier to accuse me of distortions and oversimplifications
> than looking at the world with clear eyes.
>
>
>  Indeed, the two are often intertwined.
>>
>
> Exactly. "Religion" has a fairly clear referent; "ethnicity" is vague and
> plastic.
>
> Yes? Is that too soto voce?
>
> Dan
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