[Buddha-l] Another One Bites the Dust

[Erik Hoogcarspel]

There are 2 contradicting statements in this discussion
1. teachers are just human
2. teachers have authority and are more inspiring than normal  people

According to 1 they can be mistaken, according to 2 they teach the truth. Besides this power eroticises as some US presidents have experienced, so to much admiration can make some men (and women?) do things they otherwise would't do. The only solution is to never let the teachers alone with a student. This is standard practice in many institutions.

Erik

Lidewij Niezink <lidewij at gmail.com> schreef:

>I'm thinking men... self-control and men... Men can do better than
>this.
>
>I'm also thinking that we are living in a time where this type of
>statement
>by Batchelor either needs to be conclusively backed up or seriously
>questioned: "2. Wherever people are in a position of power over other
>people, it is inevitable that some will use that power to pursue and
>fulfill their own sexual desires." Seriously?! Where does that
>'inevitable'
>come from other than conviction and (research) to confirm or justify
>that
>conviction?
>
>I really resonate with Ford on this one: "We need Zen teachers in
>succession who see themselves not as magical inheritors but as long
>time
>students  entrusted with a terrible and beautiful responsibility." Zen
>teachers and all teachers for that matter.
>
>And I am thinking Sita sings the Blues... a wonderful, free, creative,
>long
>documentary which you can all check out here:
>http://www.sitasingstheblues.com/
>
>cheers,
>Lidewij
>
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>On 4 March 2013 20:37, Richard Hayes <richard.hayes.unm at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> On Mar 4, 2013, at 11:15 , Jo <ugg-5 at spro.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Celibacy is also unnecessary because it began in antque and later
>ages
>> to be instituted to prevent hanky panky and therefore loss of dana
>and
>> reputation of an order.
>>
>> I think the most likely rationale for requiring celibacy in the early
>days
>> was that followers of religious communities were beggars (bhikṣu),
>and the
>> feeling was that people with dependents should not be claiming to be
>> renunciants of the worldly life and therefore entitled to beg for a
>living.
>> As George W. Bush and the Buddha agreed, the best way to avoid having
>> dependent children was to abstain from sexual activity altogether.
>That is
>> one consideration. The other, of course, is that breaking free of all
>> desires was seen as necessary for liberation from saṃsāra. Since food
>and
>> sex were seen as the strongest objects of desire, it made sense to
>limit
>> food and eliminate sex from the lifestyles of those in earnest
>pursuit of
>> nirvāṇa.
>>
>> Americans nowadays don't much like celibacy, partly because they
>don't
>> much like begging (because they read Ralph Waldo Emerson's
>"Self-reliance"
>> at an impressionable age) and partly because frankly, Scarlett, they
>don't
>> give a damn about nirvāṇa.
>>
>> Richard
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