[Buddha-l] Another One Bites the Dust

[Lidewij Niezink]

Sorry, Sita Sings the Blues is not a documentary of course, it is a movie.

Jo, you might like it!


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On 4 March 2013 20:50, Lidewij Niezink <lidewij at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm thinking men... self-control and men... Men can do better than this.
>
> I'm also thinking that we are living in a time where this type of
> statement by Batchelor either needs to be conclusively backed up or
> seriously questioned: "2. Wherever people are in a position of power over
> other people, it is inevitable that some will use that power to pursue and
> fulfill their own sexual desires." Seriously?! Where does that 'inevitable'
> come from other than conviction and (research) to confirm or justify that
> conviction?
>
> I really resonate with Ford on this one: "We need Zen teachers in
> succession who see themselves not as magical inheritors but as long time
> students  entrusted with a terrible and beautiful responsibility." Zen
> teachers and all teachers for that matter.
>
> And I am thinking Sita sings the Blues... a wonderful, free, creative,
> long documentary which you can all check out here:
> http://www.sitasingstheblues.com/
>
> cheers,
> Lidewij
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> On 4 March 2013 20:37, Richard Hayes <richard.hayes.unm at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Mar 4, 2013, at 11:15 , Jo <ugg-5 at spro.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Celibacy is also unnecessary because it began in antque and later ages
>> to be instituted to prevent hanky panky and therefore loss of dana and
>> reputation of an order.
>>
>> I think the most likely rationale for requiring celibacy in the early
>> days was that followers of religious communities were beggars (bhikṣu), and
>> the feeling was that people with dependents should not be claiming to be
>> renunciants of the worldly life and therefore entitled to beg for a living.
>> As George W. Bush and the Buddha agreed, the best way to avoid having
>> dependent children was to abstain from sexual activity altogether. That is
>> one consideration. The other, of course, is that breaking free of all
>> desires was seen as necessary for liberation from saṃsāra. Since food and
>> sex were seen as the strongest objects of desire, it made sense to limit
>> food and eliminate sex from the lifestyles of those in earnest pursuit of
>> nirvāṇa.
>>
>> Americans nowadays don't much like celibacy, partly because they don't
>> much like begging (because they read Ralph Waldo Emerson's "Self-reliance"
>> at an impressionable age) and partly because frankly, Scarlett, they don't
>> give a damn about nirvāṇa.
>>
>> Richard
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