[Buddha-l] the 4 ages: age of alone

[sjziobro at cs.com]

This is interesting, Joanna.  Thank you for the further clarification.  Perhaps it is just an idiosyncracy on my part, but such ruminations leave me with a sense of gratitude, and I simply suppose this is the case for others.


Stan


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Yes, of course--------it's just all more complicated than that
or me. The past beauty is today more of a 'mono aware' feeling
han a memory of the good, the true and the beautiful.
he apparent permanence of this place by the sea is real in its
wn way but also inaccessible, and as if set in a mold. One could
magine it set under glass for a paperweight. But the beach with
liffs and surf panoramas hold their own-- beaches change with
he weeks and years, yet they remain beaches, but like the famous
iver analogy, you can't step on the same beach twice. The beach
lement does inspire memories rather than nostalgia.
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Wouldn't nostalgia be better characterized as memory with a
ertain affective dimension?  The affective dimension might
omprise craving of a sort, which would rightly be let go, or it
ight comprise an existential recognition of past beauty,
oodness, truth, etc., which is not a failing in itself, but is
etter let go, as well.  Would you agree, at least somewhat,
oanna?

 Stan


 
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erhaps what you describe, Stan, isn't nostalgia but memory?
Nostalgia is craving........ 

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Joanna,

Why could nostalgia not be beneficial in some manner when it
figuratively brings one to a state of mind where harmony, love,
and goodness enlivened one and energized unsuspected
potentialities?

 


 Stan

 

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One of the un-rewards of old age is the slow die-off of old

friends and family, distant or close. Sort of prepares one for

the final aloneness.  I just saw an article about how Pakistan's

PM--Asif Ali Zardari-- has to figure out some kind of an energy

plan, at this late date, of course. He is not known for looking

far ahead. It prompted thoughts of an old pleasure--discussing S

Asia politics with my first and late husband--who was an Indian

but a Muslim too, and so had interesting analyses of doings in

Pakistan. I live in a desert--no really: literally, in Idaho, and

figuratively in a very provincial ultra Republican place. They

don't even have S. Asia on the curriculum at the state U nearby.

Nobody here for such chins chins, except our son. I can't of

course go after him every time I want to talk about India or

Pakistan. Or even about Buddhism. One mindful thing he and his

wife did was to dump TV when it went digital. 

Meanwhile, I'm back on TV watching the Pebble Beach golf

tournament. I'm a native of California and the vistas around this

golf club are pristine California as I remember it back in the

40's. Some things resist impermanence, but nostalgia probably is

not a mood that's all that beneficial?  

 

Joanna

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