[Buddha-l] the 4 ages: age of alone

[JKirkpatrick]

Yes, of course--------it's just all more complicated than that
for me. The past beauty is today more of a 'mono aware' feeling
than a memory of the good, the true and the beautiful.
The apparent permanence of this place by the sea is real in its
own way but also inaccessible, and as if set in a mold. One could
imagine it set under glass for a paperweight. But the beach with
cliffs and surf panoramas hold their own-- beaches change with
the weeks and years, yet they remain beaches, but like the famous
river analogy, you can't step on the same beach twice. The beach
element does inspire memories rather than nostalgia.

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Wouldn't nostalgia be better characterized as memory with a
certain affective dimension?  The affective dimension might
comprise craving of a sort, which would rightly be let go, or it
might comprise an existential recognition of past beauty,
goodness, truth, etc., which is not a failing in itself, but is
better let go, as well.  Would you agree, at least somewhat,
Joanna?
 

 Stan


 

 

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Perhaps what you describe, Stan, isn't nostalgia but memory?

Nostalgia is craving........ 



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Joanna,



Why could nostalgia not be beneficial in some manner when it

figuratively brings one to a state of mind where harmony, love,

and goodness enlivened one and energized unsuspected

potentialities?



 





 Stan



 



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One of the un-rewards of old age is the slow die-off of old



friends and family, distant or close. Sort of prepares one for



the final aloneness.  I just saw an article about how Pakistan's



PM--Asif Ali Zardari-- has to figure out some kind of an energy



plan, at this late date, of course. He is not known for looking



far ahead. It prompted thoughts of an old pleasure--discussing S



Asia politics with my first and late husband--who was an Indian



but a Muslim too, and so had interesting analyses of doings in



Pakistan. I live in a desert--no really: literally, in Idaho, and



figuratively in a very provincial ultra Republican place. They



don't even have S. Asia on the curriculum at the state U nearby.



Nobody here for such chins chins, except our son. I can't of



course go after him every time I want to talk about India or



Pakistan. Or even about Buddhism. One mindful thing he and his



wife did was to dump TV when it went digital. 



Meanwhile, I'm back on TV watching the Pebble Beach golf



tournament. I'm a native of California and the vistas around this



golf club are pristine California as I remember it back in the



40's. Some things resist impermanence, but nostalgia probably is



not a mood that's all that beneficial?  



 



Joanna



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