[Buddha-l] Schopen lauded

[Piya Tan]

Thanks, Weng Fai, very interesting and "reasonable" as you put it.

Hope more monastics will read and heed this Sutra.

Anyway, we know from the Pali suttas (such as S 41.1) that Citta the
householder gives teachings to the monks.

With metta,

Piya


On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Weng-Fai Wong <wongwf at comp.nus.edu.sg> wrote:
> "Fa Yuan Zhu Lin" (T53 No. 2122 Fascicle 98, p. 1005) cites a certain "Great
> Sutra of Five Disasters" - I failed to locate this in the Taisho but it is
> crossed listed in some of the catalogues found in the Taisho):
>
> "According to the Great Sutra of Five Disasters, there are five chaos (luan)
> during the End of Dharma times:
>
> 1. Bhiksus learn the Dharma from householders (bai yi - "white clothed
> ones"). This is first chaos.
>
> 2. Householders are seated above and the bhiksus below (them). This is the
> second chaos.
>
> 3. Bhiksus do not practice what they preach while householders think what
> they teach is supreme. This is the third chaos.
>
> 4. Maras appear in the world as bhiksus and the world take what they preach
> as the true Dharma. The Buddha-Dharma is no longer clear to the world and
> all sorts of lies and falsehood are held as beliefs. This is the fourth
> chaos.
>
> 5. Bhiksus have wives and servants, earns a livelihood and do not keep the
> precepts, making them no different from householders. This is fifth chaos."
>
> Sounds reasonable to me.
>
> W.F. Wong
>
>
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>>
>> Weng Fai,
>>
>> Your citation please.
>>
>
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