[Buddha-l] Thai-Cambodian war over Temple ownership

[Chris]

Thank you for your NYT e-clipping service in support of the enlightenment of
the Buddha-l community.

Clearly, this 'news' regarding territorial pissing rites around a Hindu
temple is of great significance to you, (You not only provided a link to
your story but went on to copy that entire story in full.) and quite
possibly others  However, to those of us who actually live in the region of
Khao Phra Viharn, the brand of rhetoric you employ is amusing if not
completely factual. Emotively loaded terms such as 'war' are, in my opinion,
a tad out of place on this forum, as is the subject matter, *i.e.,* the
politics of a Hindu temple. But, I could be wrong.

As for the regretable loss of life resulting from this skirmish, far more
people lost their life as road-kill on the highways of Thailand over the
past week than died from involvement in your 'war'.

But, as was observed on this forum recently, why let facts get in the way of
a good story?

Keep up your e-clipping service, Dan



On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 2:45 AM, Dan Lusthaus <vasubandhu at earthlink.net>wrote:

> The fighting between Cambodian and Thai troops over the Temple area
> continues:
> Dan
>
> from NYTimes
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/16/world/asia/16cambo.html?ref=world
>
> 2 Killed on Thai-Cambodian Border
>
> By SETH MYDANS
> Published: October 15, 2008
>
> BANGKOK - Thai and Cambodian soldiers exchanged rocket and rifle fire for
> about an hour on Wednesday in a confrontation at their border over a
> disputed 900-year-old mountaintop temple, according to reports from the
> area. At least two Cambodian soldiers were killed, the Cambodian foreign
> minister said.
>
> Thai soldiers on a military truck drove to the front line after clashes
> with
> Cambodian troops in a disputed border area.
>
> Several hundred soldiers from both sides have faced each other at the
> border
> since July, when Unesco, the United Nations agency, approved Cambodia's
> request to have the temple named a World Heritage Site.
>
> Foreign Minister Hor Namhong of Cambodia said two Cambodian soldiers had
> also been wounded. A spokesman for the Thai Foreign Ministry said seven
> Thai
> paramilitary soldiers were wounded. Ten Thai soldiers surrendered to the
> Cambodians, according to news reports in the capital, Phnom Penh.
>
> The two nations have made claims for decades over the temple, Preah Vihear,
> which stands at the lip of an escarpment on the border looking out over the
> mountains of northern Cambodia.
>
> In 1962, the International Court of Justice awarded the temple to Cambodia,
> based on a map prepared at the start of the century by colonial French
> rulers. Unesco placed the temple in Cambodia partly based on that map when
> it awarded Preah Vihear world heritage status.
>
> As a result of the rising tensions, Thai officials said they had prepared
> aircraft to evacuate some 1,500 citizens living in Cambodia. Thai
> authorities ordered a similar evacuation in 2003 when Cambodians rioted in
> the capital in protest against Thailand, setting fire to Thai businesses
> and
> to the Thai Embassy.
>
> That earlier violence also involved claims to a temple, in that case the
> crown jewel, Angkor Wat, which is well within the borders of Cambodia.
>
> "Thai businessmen who have no need to be in Cambodia now, please rush back
> to Thailand," Foreign Minister Sompong Amornwiwat said Wednesday.
>
> Thai nationals were reported to have huddled in a hotel in Phnom Penh for
> safety, uncertain if they should evacuate. Riot police were deployed
> outside
> the Thai Embassy.
>
> Prime Minister Hun Sen of Cambodia on Tuesday issued an ultimatum to about
> 80 Thai soldiers to withdraw from a portion of the temple area. His noon
> deadline passed, with the Cambodian side saying the Thais had retreated and
> the Thais saying there had been no troop movements.
>
> "At any cost we will not allow Thai troops to invade this area," Mr. Hun
> Sen
> said Tuesday. "I would like to be clear about this. It is a life-and-death
> battle zone."
>
> In an effort to ease tensions, the Thai and Cambodian regional military
> commanders were scheduled to hold talks Thursday. The fighting on Wednesday
> was not the first since the two sides have deployed soldiers at the temple.
> Early this month, one Cambodian and two Thais were reported wounded in an
> exchange of gunfire.
>
> Three days later, two Thai soldiers lost legs when they stepped on some of
> the many thousands of land mines strewn through the area.
>
> Thailand's 300,000-strong military is far better equipped and trained than
> the Cambodian army, with F-16 fighter jets and Blackhawk helicopters. But
> Cambodian soldiers have been fighting in the area for decades and are
> hardened by guerrilla warfare.
>
> The disputed temple was in the hands of Khmer Rouge guerrillas until a
> decade ago, when the movement collapsed, 19 years after the fall of the
> Khmer Rouge regime in Phnom Penh. Many soldiers and commanders in the Royal
> Cambodian Armed Forces are former members of the Khmer Rouge.
>
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