[Buddha-l] Victimized vegans?

[Piya Tan]

Thanks Shian. Will check this out.

Piya

On 5/17/07, [DPD Web] Shen Shi'an <shian at kmspks.org> wrote:
>
>  Hi Piay,
>
> Try http://www.rickross.com < Extensive Cult Info – Not sure how objective
> though…
>
> Amituofo, shi'an
> www.moonpointer.com
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Piya Tan [mailto:dharmafarer at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 17 May, 2007 1:15 PM
> *To:* Buddhist discussion forum
> *Subject:* Re: [Buddha-l] Victimized vegans?
>
>
>
> One of the best ways is to keep on talking about such matters in a
> informative
> manner (like here) so that more people are informed. The good thing is
> that since the
> 1980s and 1990s (scandals around Trungpa, Sangharakshita, etc) those who
> have
> been hurt are speaking clearly and openly, and this help them to become
> functional
> again and turn in the right direction.
>
> Are there good anticult websites in this connection that less articulate
> victims (also
> the silent sufferers) can turn to for help and healing?
>
> Thanks for the courage in speaking up.
>
> Piya Tan
>
>
>  On 5/17/07, *Dan Lusthaus *<vasubandhu at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> The sexual proclivities and abuses by "gurus" of their impressionable
> devotees is still one of the major dirty secrets of the guru business.
> Initially those being abused do not come forward since they are partially
> in
> shock and partially still are deluded into believing that they are having
> a
> "special" relation with something divine or transcendent.
>
> When the accusations eventually surface, the "true believers" predictably
> go
> into denial mode, casting doubts on the credibility of the whistleblowers
> --
> they are more interested in reassuring themselves that the object of their
> own credulity is still credible.
>
> One of the more publicized cases -- concerning a Hindu, not Buddhist guru
> --
> is the Sai Baba story. BBC did an expose back in 2004.
>
> Transcript at
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/programmes/this_world/transcripts/secret_swami17_06_04.txt
>
>
> Background:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/this_world/3791921.stm
>
>
> http://barrypittard.wordpress.com/2007/05/14/bbcs-secret-swami-clip-man-claims-abuse-when-young/
>
> The "believers" counterattack:
> http://www.sai-fi.net/sathyasaibaba/secret_swami.shtml
>
> Further expose:
> http://home.chello.no/~reirob/CovUp4.htm<http://home.chello.no/%7Ereirob/CovUp4.htm>
>
>
> As it turns out, one of Sai Baba's victims happens to be a close friend,
> who
> I've known for a long time, from before his Sai Baba days, and whose
> credibility in this matter is beyond question -- and who still bears the
> psychological scars of the ordeal.
>
> Sadly, this is not a unique event. But we needn't go into naming all the
> gurus who have been exposed -- some still objects of veneration. As usual,
> the moral of the story is:
> caveat emptor.
>
> Dan Lusthaus
>
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