[Buddha-l] Victimized vegans?

[[DPD Web] Shen Shi'an]

Hi Piay, 

Try http://www.rickross.com <http://www.rickross.com/>  < Extensive Cult
Info - Not sure how objective though... 

Amituofo, shi'an
www.moonpointer.com <http://www.moonpointer.com/>  

 

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From: Piya Tan [mailto:dharmafarer at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 17 May, 2007 1:15 PM
To: Buddhist discussion forum
Subject: Re: [Buddha-l] Victimized vegans?

 

One of the best ways is to keep on talking about such matters in a
informative
manner (like here) so that more people are informed. The good thing is
that since the 
1980s and 1990s (scandals around Trungpa, Sangharakshita, etc) those who
have 
been hurt are speaking clearly and openly, and this help them to become
functional 
again and turn in the right direction.

Are there good anticult websites in this connection that less articulate
victims (also 
the silent sufferers) can turn to for help and healing?

Thanks for the courage in speaking up. 

Piya Tan




On 5/17/07, Dan Lusthaus <vasubandhu at earthlink.net> wrote:

The sexual proclivities and abuses by "gurus" of their impressionable
devotees is still one of the major dirty secrets of the guru business.
Initially those being abused do not come forward since they are
partially in 
shock and partially still are deluded into believing that they are
having a
"special" relation with something divine or transcendent.

When the accusations eventually surface, the "true believers"
predictably go 
into denial mode, casting doubts on the credibility of the
whistleblowers --
they are more interested in reassuring themselves that the object of
their
own credulity is still credible.

One of the more publicized cases -- concerning a Hindu, not Buddhist
guru -- 
is the Sai Baba story. BBC did an expose back in 2004.

Transcript at

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/programmes/this_world/transcripts/
secret_swami17_06_04.txt 

Background:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/this_world/3791921.stm

http://barrypittard.wordpress.com/2007/05/14/bbcs-secret-swami-clip-man-
claims-abuse-when-young/

The "believers" counterattack:
http://www.sai-fi.net/sathyasaibaba/secret_swami.shtml 

Further expose:
http://home.chello.no/~reirob/CovUp4.htm


As it turns out, one of Sai Baba's victims happens to be a close friend,
who
I've known for a long time, from before his Sai Baba days, and whose
credibility in this matter is beyond question -- and who still bears the
psychological scars of the ordeal.

Sadly, this is not a unique event. But we needn't go into naming all the

gurus who have been exposed -- some still objects of veneration. As
usual,
the moral of the story is:
caveat emptor.

Dan Lusthaus

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