[Buddha-l] Silence of the List

[curt]

Would Shinran accept the view that his teaching should be seen not in 
terms of absolute truth but rather in terms of "upaya"? In particular, 
would this "teaching" be seen as a specific "medicine" for a specific 
"disease" - for instance the disease of attachment to the idea of one's 
own goodness? I hope so - otherwise it appears to be a justification for 
.... just about anything. As in "my karma made me do it".
- Curt

Gad Horowitz wrote:

>speaking of karma, here is a nice quotation from Shinran:
>"Because you lack the karmic necessity to kill even a single person, you do
>not commit murder.  That is why you do not kill, not because YOU are GOOD.
>On the other hand, even though you did not want to kill, it may so happen
>that you nevertheless kill hundreds or thousands of people>" and he would
>apply this to Rumsfeld, Rove, and me and thee, would he not?
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>From: "Richard P. Hayes" <rhayes at unm.edu>
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>>On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 09:21 -0500, curt wrote:
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>>>I thought we were all busy writing thank you notes to Patrick Fitzgerald
>>>and Joseph Wilson.
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>>No thank you notes are in order until Karl Rove is behind bars at
>>Guantánamo and Don Rumsfeld is locked up with a room full of dogs in Abu
>>Ghraib. As Robert Dylan almost said "It's karma-vipaaka that we need to
>>get back to work again."
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