[Buddha-l] Re: Silence, conservatism and JPII

[Timothy Smith]

Stan,

Why are you asking me to square up his views with his actions.  To me 
they seem self-evident.  If you are at all familiar
with the quasi-fascist orientation of Opus Dei, you might not be 
struggling so with the notion of JPII's conservatism.
I fail to see how pointing out the obvious equates to reductionism.  
You may make your own judgments on his
papacy, I simply don't see it your way.

Timothy Smith
Wheelwright Associates
www.wheelwrightassoc.com
On Apr 7, 2005, at 6:15 AM, Stanley J. Ziobro II wrote:

> On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Timothy Smith wrote:
>
>> If one examines his support of Opus Dei, particularly the ultra-speedy
>> canonization of its founder,
>> the conclusions are obvious, at least if you're aware of the history
>> and practices of that
>> organization.  I'm sorry Stan, but while Karol Wojtyla was certainly a
>> mensch, and probably
>> a fine man, as the leader of his organization, he acquiesced in every
>> aspect to its conservative wing.
>
> Timothy,
>
> Being groggy and benighted as I am I must ask you if the Catholic 
> Church
> is reduceable to a political organization, as your message would 
> imply, or
> whether there is something more to it?  Furthermore, does JPII's 
> history
> with Opus Dei (or rather, its history with him) reduce JPII to a 
> political
> conservative?  What of his explicit and serious reservations about
> American-style capitalism as an untenable economic vehicle for justice?
> Does that, according to your method of reducing the man to his actions,
> thereby make him a liberal?  It should.
>
> Regards,
>
> Stan Ziobro
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