[Buddha-l] more tibetan self-immolations

[sjziobro at cs.com]

It doesn't strike me as odd.  The Communist Chinese invaded and occupied the sovereign nation of Tibet in the middle of the last century.  They've occupied it since and implemented policies that oppress the Tibetan people, which oppression includes eradicating as much as possible their culture, and any hint of an uprising has been brutally suppressed.  In short, the Communist Chinese have been warring against the Tibetans, and the fact that the Tibetan people are in no position to successfully defend themselves does not make this any less a war.
 

 Stan

 

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That's odd--already a war going on? 
Being passive-aggressive is oppositional, but it is not making war.

JK

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I agree with you.  The aggressors are the Communist Chinese and their
unlawful policies.  There already is a war going on, but most politely
ignore the reality and claim that it is better to let injustice dominate.
 

 Stan Ziobro

 

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From: Ngawang Dorje <rahula_80 at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:49 pm
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What other alternative(s) would you suggest? It seems that these methods
have failed, (1) the Dalai Lama's non-violence, (2) Gandhi-styled fast, (3)
Thic Quang Duc-styled self-immolation. These methods brought forth more
criticism and condemnation than any breakthrough or success.

A Buddhist friend suggest that Tibetans should just give in / give up. Well,
it is also not healthy to suggest that we give in, whenever a person is
being bullied, harrassed, victimized or aggressed.


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 From: Federico Andino <dingirfecho at gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 11:22 AM
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>
> >Instead of self-immolations, they should wage war. At least, it's better.
>
>
> This is not a buddhist way. The consecuences of those waging war are 
> much
more devastating, in the long run.

F

On Jan 7, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Ngawang Dorje <rahula_80 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Instead of self-immolations, they should wage war. At least, it's better.

Nothing is worse than war. Nothing. So how can waging war be considered
better than dramatic suicide? 
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