[Buddha-l] An "eastern" unquiet example

Jo jkirk at spro.net
Wed Dec 7 15:02:19 MST 2011


Thanks

I looked under the Nov 11th date in my sent file, since that is the date
Chris's post said I posted it.
Joanna

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According to the Archives, it appeared on the list on Nov. 10:
*Thu Nov 10 14:58:09 MST 2011
*under the heading 'An "eastern" unquiet example'
and is exactly what Chris posted, no more, no less.
Cheers,
Margaret


On 6 December 2011 18:51, Jo <jkirk at spro.net> wrote:

> Meanwhile, as I await evidence that I posted the below citation on 
> Buddha-L, I'd like to respond to Chris's remark about possible Muslim 
> or Christian origins of Hindu intolerance, as follows:
>
> History shows that denizens of India before the arrival of the Muslims 
> and Christians nevertheless were intolerant of difference of various
sorts:
> caste differences, sect differences, imperial ruler differences.  
> There are signs of this in the Pali texts when competing sectarians 
> came to argue with the Buddha; if they did not convert, they went away 
> mad. (Of course, in those days there was no such thing as what we call 
> Hinduism, today. But there was plenty of non-benign sectarianism going 
> on.)
>
> Since then, with more documentation, there is zero evidence that 
> Hindus were ever consistently 'tolerant'. See the Manushashtras, for a 
> start.  It just depended on which side bread was buttered in any given 
> case, or on how much power the intolerants possessed to wreak their 
> intolerance on others.
>
> Best,
> Joanna
>
>
> On 11 November 2011 03:58, Jo <jkirk at spro.net> wrote:
> > http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/MK10Df01.html
> >
> > ..The rich diversity in the various tellings of the Ramayana that 
> > Ramanujan wrote about raised the hackles of the Hindu right in 2008, 
> > when activists of the Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP), the 
> > student wing of the Sangh Parivar (a family of Hindu right-wing
> > organizations) vandalized Delhi University's history department to 
> > protest against the teaching of this essay, describing it as a 
> > "blasphemous" essay that was "malicious, capricious, fallacious and
> offensive to the beliefs of millions of Hindus".
>
> I sometimes wonder how much of the intolerance of these contemporary 
> Hindu groups is due to India's long exposure to intolerant Muslim and 
> Christian regimes - from whom they seem to have to have learned a lot.
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Margaret Gouin
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Author, Tibetan Rituals of Death : Buddhist funerary
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