[Buddha-l] Paper: When the Saints Go Marching In (Lachs)

lemmett at talk21.com lemmett at talk21.com
Sat Apr 16 08:08:55 MDT 2011


Yes! I've never come across anything like that before - the worst thing is just someone that... I mean it always seem ambiguous which is a good thing. Sort of like: if you were a normal human being I'd think you were being rude to me, really.


Thank you for tolerating me :-)
Luke

--- On Sat, 16/4/11, G. McLoughlin <caodemarte at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: G. McLoughlin <caodemarte at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Buddha-l] Paper: When the Saints Go Marching In (Lachs)
> To: "Buddhist discussion forum" <buddha-l at mailman.swcp.com>
> Date: Saturday, 16 April, 2011, 14:56
> I would imagine that anyone who sets
> up an "I represent absolute reality and it 
> is in opposition to your small self"  opposition like
> this would be seen as 
> pretty suspicious. 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Stuart Lachs <slachs at att.net>
> To: Buddhist discussion forum <buddha-l at mailman.swcp.com>
> Sent: Sat, April 16, 2011 1:10:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [Buddha-l] Paper: When the Saints Go Marching
> In (Lachs)
> 
> Hi Luke,
> 
> You wrote,
> "The teacher screamed at him, "I represent the Buddha,
> >> you represent ego."
> >
> > I wondered if you could explain what the teacher meant
> or just more 
> > generally what zen buddhism says about the ego - I
> don't actually think 
> > it's a term I've encountered in what I've read."
> 
> I believe the teacher meant that he speaks with the mind of
> the Buddha, the 
> selfless enlightened mind while the student " representing
> ego" speaks with 
> a mind attached to itself, self protective, some times
> referred to as the 
> small mind, a mind/being that sees itself in opposition to
> and separate from 
> everything else.
> 
> If you have read old Chan/Zen texts or their translations,
> you will not see 
> the term ego because it is a modern western term. However,
> it is commonly 
> used around western Zen centers.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Stuart
> 
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