[Buddha-l] MMK 25.09 (was: as Swami goes...)

Dan Lusthaus vasubandhu at earthlink.net
Thu Apr 29 16:02:46 MDT 2010


Richard, it's clear you don't see the problem, so I probably did not spell 
it out with sufficient clarity. You believe there is no problem. I haven't 
time now to spell out in detail why there is. We would have to review 
several MMK chapters, starting with ch. 2 perhaps to clarify why there can 
be no casual idioms implying continuities for Nagarjuna, especially one's 
employing the loaded terms used in MMK 25.9.

Since probably neither of us has the time at the moment to embark on that, 
let's leave it at this impasse for now. That you've taken to name-calling 
doesn't help matters. That your position has been that (1) there is 
something there, which you designate a "process", and (2) whether that 
process is to be considered samsara or nirvana depends entirely on how one 
looks at it (psychology),  is not something I am falsely attributing to you. 
It is what you have said -- with the backdoor escape hatch of "it's only an 
idiom, stupid." And you accuse Nagarjuna of equivocating.

(to be continued?)

Dan 



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