Curt, you might enjoy dipping into Clark Strand's new book from Doubleday, on God for people who don't believe in G0d (sort of like koans from the Bible) — and he also is moderating web discussion on this (which Url i'll find this week for you if you like). Gary Gach http://www.redroom.com/author/gary-g-gach http://blogs.psychologytoday.com/blog/where-buddha-meets-freud