--- On Tue, 12/5/09, Erik Hoogcarspel <jehms at xs4all.nl> wrote: > > Wasn't it more to do with opium or ether than nature per se? ;-) > > > Certainly not, you barbarian! ;-) I'm not a barbarian. I'm a hick! > You might be surprised what interest in the sublime > you'll find if you would investigate it.