[Buddha-l] Enneagram and Buddhism

[jkirk]

Averroes was ibn Rushd. 
Just to make all of their real names clear.
Pedantically yours,
Joanna 
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Curt wrote:

CS> Converting the infidels may or may not have been Llull's true
aim. 
CS> In fact, his "system" was "Christian" in name only and very
few if 
CS> any Muslims or Jews were ever converted because of it.

yes... of course. The obsession of Llull with those artifacts was
to drive the reason and avoiding the forced conversions. He used
the anecdote to support the invention of his artifacts and
discussion.

CS> However it did  provide a good cover story for traveling all
over 
CS> the place and meeting  with and engaging in philosophical 
CS> discussions with people in the Muslim  world. This was
especially 
CS> important to someone like Llull whose was  drawn to Platonic 
CS> philosophy, which the Muslims had done a much better  job of 
CS> preserving than the Catholics had.

yes. His main influence was Al-farabi, the neoplatonic Muslim,
as I mentioned to you in a private email. That open style of both
was confronted with the fundamentalisms in both Christian and
Muslim sides. Llull was attacked in his home by Catholics, and
the Al-farabi work was attacked by Averroes, an Aristotelic
philosopher who rescued Muslim doctrine of the fundamentalism of
Al-Gazzali but also attacking the Alfarabi mystics speculations.
In fact, Llull passed into the History like an interreligious
precedent. 


best regards,




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