[Buddha-l] Enneagram and Buddhism

[Curt Steinmetz]

Converting the infidels may or may not have been Llull's true aim. In 
fact, his "system" was "Christian" in name only and very few if any 
Muslims or Jews were ever converted because of it. However it did 
provide a good cover story for traveling all over the place and meeting 
with and engaging in philosophical discussions with people in the Muslim 
world. This was especially important to someone like Llull whose was 
drawn to Platonic philosophy, which the Muslims had done a much better 
job of preserving than the Catholics had.

A few centuries after Llull, George Gemistos Plethon was selected to 
participate in an Orthodox delegation seeking re-unification with the 
Catholic Christians. Plethon used the opportunity to give very popular 
lectures on Plato in Florence, which Marsilio Ficino credited with 
inspiring Cosimo de' Medici to establish a Platonic Academy in Florence 
(which Cosimo chose Ficino to head).

Curt Steinmetz

Vicente Gonzalez wrote:
> Curt wrote:
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> CS> Lull conceived as a system of perfect language with which
> CS> to convert the infidels. The language was to be universal; it was to be
> CS> articulated at the level of expression in a universal mathematics of 
> CS> combinations; its level of content was to consist of a network of 
> CS> universal ideas, held by all peoples, which Lull himself would devise."
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> that's truth. Llull wrote many times about one anecdote to defend his
> strange artifacts. He visited the Sultan of Tunisia to convert him,
> and the Sultan asked him why he had to change his religion only by
> faith. He asked Llull some arguments by using the Reason. He told to
> Llull a famous phrase:
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> "¿Credere pro credere? Credere pro vero intelligere".
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> With these frequent obstacles, Llull was obsessed to build a perfect
> logical system to convert Muslims.
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> best regards,
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