[Buddha-l] Re: Sharon Stone and Karma

[jkirk]

Yes indeed, they are viewed as subject to the laws of karma.
Deities (the devas) occupying the most pleasurable heaven are
working off their good karma by being there. When it's exhausted
they will be reborn. Spirits are of all varieties--mostly demons,
hungry ghosts, etc. They are working off a lot of bad karma
accumulated  over many births. Or so it goes according to the
mythology. 
Here are a few sources:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/kn/pv/index.html
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/dhamma/sagga/index.html

Best,
Joanna K.
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Just wondering.

Aren't "spiritual" beings - gods, asuras, what have you - not
also viewed as karmic actors in the buddhist 'imaginaire' ?

An example - admittedly not really a buddhist one but the first
that came to my mind  - the destructive eruption of the Gunung
Agung volcanoe in Bali in 1963 during the preparations of the
great centenary Eka Dasa Rudra cleansing ritual was considered by
many older Balinese not as a random natural event but as the
willfull action of the mountain god - a spirit equated with Shiva
- in retribution of the atrocities that had been committed by
humans on the island in the past period. To them it was a
"logical" event.

Don't get me wrong ; I am not suggesting anything here about the
true cause of the bitterly tragic events in Sechuan (or Birma).
I'll just repeat my question : aren't "spiritual" beings not also
viewed as karmic actors in the traditional buddhist view(s) of
the world ? Who will try an answer ?

Herman Zelders

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