[Buddha-l] FW: Soteriology of universals

[Joy Vriens]

>Sorry you missed that I was making a little joke. 
>Joanna 

I didn't miss the joke. I posted this for two reasons. One was to point out that it seems that bakchoi (bacchoi) are not initiates into the mysteries of Dionysos as Cole writes. I think you call those Bacchae in good English. And second I thought it was funny to imagine that the Eleusinian initiates were waving leaves of Chinese cabbage. I should have perhaps explained that in more detail, sorry.

Joy   



>>"Mystai and bakchoi are initiates into the mysteries of Eleusis and  
>>Dionysus respectively (Cole 201)" 

"The procession to Eleusis began at Kerameikos (the Athenian cemetery) on the 19th Boedromion from where the people walked to Eleusis, along what was called the "Sacred Way", swinging branches called bacchoi. At a certain spot along the way, they shouted obscenities in commemoration of Iambe (or Baubo), an old woman who, by cracking dirty jokes, had made Demeter smile as she mourned the loss of her daughter. The procession also shouted "Iakch' o Iakche!," referring to Iacchus, possibly an epithet for Dionysus, or a separate deity, son of Persephone or Demeter." 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleusinian_Mysteries 

"In the Eleusinian Mysteries, the bakchoi were the branches that initiates carried during their procession along the Sacred Way, the twenty-one kilometer hike from Athens to Eleusis. (Homo necans, p. 306 f.)" 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacchoi