[Buddha-l] Re: Problems with karma

jkirk jkirk at spro.net
Sat May 26 20:31:23 MDT 2007


 
Thanks, Dhammananda, for supplying the translations. I see the good old
Indian humoral system is invoked here. Joanna
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Joanna Kirk:
 
> Somebody posted the eight factors earlier on but I can't find 
> them--please post them again.
 
They are from the Siivakasutta (SN. iv. 229-31; _Connected Discourses_ 
II. 1278-9).
 
The rejected view is pubbekatahetuvaada: "Whatever a person experiences,
whether it be pleasant or painful or neither-painful-nor-pleasant, all that
is caused by what was done in 
the past." Of those who claim such the Buddha says that "they overshoot what
one knows by oneself and they overshoot what is considered to be true in the
world."
 
The eight causes of feeling then given are:
 
1. Originating from bile (pittasamu.t.thaana)
2. Originating from phlegm (semhasamu.t.thaana)
3. Originating from wind (vaatasamu.t.thaana)
4. Originating from an imbalance [of the three] (sannipaatikaana)
5. Arising from a change of climate (utupari.naamaja)
6. Arising from careless behaviour (visamaparihaaraja)
7. Caused by assault (opakkamika)
8. Consisting in the ripening of kamma (kammavipaaka)
 
Also, the Kathaavatthu offers a more formal refutation of 
pubbekatahetuvaada (Kvu. 545-6; _Points of Controversy_ 314-5).
 
Best wishes,
Dhammanando
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