[Buddha-l] RE: Article of possible interest--correction

[Joy Vriens]

Hi Vincente,

>>  Generally speaking, his explanation for the mystical experiences is 
>>that the mystics in questions work in a general framework, which is 
>>the belief system of their religion. Their mind, subconscious, is 
>>continuously impregnated through meditation, prayer, ascetism and 
>>other imagery. 
 
>only a point: Then, It is not specially intriguing seeing some 
>Christian mystics (Origen, etc..) talking about rebirth?. 

If one believes in souls it is not that strange to believe that a soul needs to live somewhere. In fact it's more unexpected to see Buddhists believe in the various places where a soul lives, but without believing in a soul. And then they claim that belief is vital as well... Has one ever seen more talented eel-wrigglers? :-)  

>Because we cannot find some Buddhist mystics talking about 
>non-rebirth. Moreover, we find in the later Christian mystics that 
>there is a point where the imagery tools are finished, and then 
>God "show his secrets" and similar claims. Maybe the difference is 
>that Buddhism is explicit. 

In Catholicism, the imagery never stopped. If it did, you got burned and/or excommunicated, unless you retracted. Then you got the right to rot in jail. Must be because of incarnation.

Joy