[Buddha-l] Loving your object of study
L.S. Cousins
selwyn at ntlworld.com
Tue Dec 4 22:08:08 MST 2007
Richard,
>Do you think the system implies that it is necessary to achieve any jhaana
>higher than the first? It has always seemed to me that the "work" of
>eradicating the various afflictions is done by realizing that everything is
>impersonal, impermanent and (at least a potential source of) dukkha. But this
>is precisely what vipassanaa consists in: fully grasping those three marks.
My understanding is that calm suppresses the afflictions in one way,
insight suppresses them in another, but only the harmonious
cooperation of calm and insight can cut off (samuccheda) the
operation of afflictions permanently.
> I have a difficult time imagining anyone doing that work without attaining
>first jhaana, but I can't see why any higher-numbered jhaanas would be
>necessary just to fully eradicate desire and anger (and the tendency to split
>infinitives).
As far as I understand the logic, the stream-enterer eliminates that
level of afflictions which lead to wrong external behaviour i.e.
breach of the precepts. The never-returner eliminates those
afflictions which obstruct concentration. The arahat eliminates those
which obstruct wisdom as well.
So I suppose that the fourth jhaana or something very near to that is
necessary for never-return. Hence the rebirth of the never-returner
in the fourth jhaana Pure Abodes.
Lance
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