[Buddha-l] there he goes again (sam harris)

[Gad Horowitz]

in lucid dreaming one knows that one is dreaming. in waking life,one may be
aware that waking life is similar to a dream. merrily down the stream, dr.
hayes


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Hayes" <rhayes at unm.edu>
To: "Buddhist discussion forum" <buddha-l at mailman.swcp.com>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Buddha-l] there he goes again (sam harris)


> On Monday 30 October 2006 12:21, Gad Horowitz wrote:
>
> > how about the experience of the self as similar to an illusion?
>
> How would that work? It seems that one can have an experience of some sort
> that one later figures out was an illusion. But the figuring out is not
part
> of the experience itself as much as it is part of what one makes of the
> experience. So what I'd find it more satisfactory to say is that one has
an
> experience of some kind and then later says about it that it was an
> experience the content of which was a self, but since one has been taught
by
> Buddhists that there is no self, then one reasons that the experience that
> was putatively of a self must have been an illusion. By the time one has
> arrived there, it seems to me that one has strayed quite far from the
> original experience.
>
> What one makes of any experience is likely to be conditioned by the
beliefs
> one already has. If those beliefs are dogmas, then one might come up with
a
> conviction that experience has shown that one's dogmas are truths.
>
> -- 
> Richard P. Hayes
> Department of Philosophy
> University of New Mexico
> http://www.unm.edu/~rhayes
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