[Buddha-l] Fw: BAU or Buddha's life ... which came first?

[jkirk]

Since our Buddhologers are so busy with pudgalavada,
perhaps one among you might be sufficently energized 
to consider a reply to this query from another list, 
which interests me as well (on this list, and might
interest a few others folks).

Do y'all agree with Goto, Toshifumi?

Thanks
Joanna
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jan E.M. Houben" <j_e_m_houben at YAHOO.COM>
To: <INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: BAU or Buddha's life ... which came first?


Dear Luis,
Thanks, this is an important article. The author
apperently accepts, without questioning, the
classical view that the Vedic Upanisads including
the BAU are (just) before the life and teaching
of the Buddha. See for instance in the concluding
paragraph "The conceptions of life and world in
early Buddhism have thus inherited the
reflections on birth and death found in the old
Upanisads, and further explicated them."
Jan
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--- Luis Gonzalez-Reimann <reimann at BERKELEY.EDU>
wrote:

> Dear Jan,
> 
> This article may be of some help:
> 
> Goto, Toshifumi. 2005. Yajñavalkya's 
> Characterization of the Atman and the Four
> Kinds 
> of Suffering in Early Buddhism. Electronic 
> Journal of Vedic Studies 12, no. 2: 71-85.
> Online at: http://www1.shore.net/~india/ejvs/.
> 
> Luis
> ==================================  
> At 09:15 AM 12/4/2006, you wrote:
> >Dear All,
> >One of the many problems of dating texts and
> >events in Indian cultural history concerns the
> >relative dates of the Brhad-Aranyaka-Upanisad
> and the life of the Buddha. The 'traditional'
> view, starting from estimates by Max Müller and
> others,>would place the old Vedic Upanisads, including
> >BAU, before the Buddha. Some have argued,
> >however, that the BAU was composed(finalized?)
> >after the Buddha (and after Panini). I remember
> >that Johannes Bronkhorst (The two traditions
> of meditation) and Richard Gombrich have written
> on this (in the 80s-90s). What are the latest
> >contributions on this topic in which a student
> of mine is interested?
> >Thanks,
> >Jan Houben
> 



 
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