[Buddha-l] Re: Buddhist pacifism

[Gad Horowitz]

yes maturana was a buddhist

though possibly not an organized buddhist


ant hill is good as metaphor of totalitarianism--no concern for any
individuals EXCEPT insofar as they are "members"


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter D. Junger" <junger at samsara.law.cwru.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Buddha-l] Re: Buddhist pacifism


> "Gad Horowitz" writes:
>
> : "Left Hand" is not a good metaphor because it has no autonomy
> : (self-organization--do you know the Buddhist biologists Humberto
Maturana
> : and Francisco Varela?)
>
> I never met them and both are dead, but are you sure that Maturana
> was a Buddhist?
>
> : Better would be--microrganism in the large intestine.
> : Perhaps someone could suggest a better metaphor.
> : "Body " is not a good metaphor for "society" insofar as the former is at
a
> : much lower level of abstraction than the latter. The organic metaphor
plays
> : a large part in the ideologies of  corporatist and fascist Europe.Where
does
> : the Old Fuys admonition to test things for yourself come in?  Does the
left
> : hand have its own (!) karma?
>
> Why not use the metaphor of Ant Hill from Hofstadler's _Goedel,
> Escher, Bach_.  [The] Ant Hill is an individual without any
> concern for the individual ants who make up the hill.
>
> --
> Peter D. Junger--Case Western Reserve University Law School--Cleveland, OH
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