[Buddha-l] Re: Devadatta the Renegade: The Thrue History of Buddhism

[Benito Carral]

On Wednesday, October 12, 2005, Joy Vriens wrote:

> We   define  ourselves  against  the  world,  against
> others.

   That's a way of doing (and seeing) it.

> Don't  underestimated  those who play second roles or
> baddies.

   I  think that I don't tend to do it. But in the case
of  the  Devadattian  rigorists, I think that they were
the  ones  who decided to define themselves against the
mainstrean sangha.


>> I  would  not  say  that such a Mahayana sutra [_The
>> Lotus   Sutra_]   is   part  of  the  canon  of  the
>> traditional Buddhist history.

> Ok  point  taken.  No Mahayana sutras either. So when
> does the traditional Buddhist history stop?

   I  think  that  we  could  accept  the  texts  where
Theravadins   and  Sarvastivadins  agree  (deliberately
leaving aside the Mahasangikas for convenience).

   Best wishes,

   Beni