[Buddha-l] No longer... Silence of the List

Chris castanford at gmail.com
Tue Nov 1 20:42:18 MST 2005


Two points. First, this list is no longer 'silent' and the subject line has
exceeded its 'use-by-date'. Secondly, when replying to posts, it may be
useful to edit out the unnecessary and irrelevant material from previous and
earlier posts. At the very least, edit out all those [Buddha-l] notices that
trail every post. I cut out four such repetitions from Gad's latest
submission.

On 11/2/05, Gad Horowitz <horowitz at chass.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
> I think "justification" as in "making it righty, or just" has nothing to
> do
> with it. What, other than my karma, could make me do anything?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "curt" <curt at cola.iges.org>
> To: "Buddhist discussion forum" <buddha-l at mailman.swcp.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Buddha-l] Silence of the List
>
>
> > Would Shinran accept the view that his teaching should be seen not in
> > terms of absolute truth but rather in terms of "upaya"? In particular,
> > would this "teaching" be seen as a specific "medicine" for a specific
> > "disease" - for instance the disease of attachment to the idea of one's
> > own goodness? I hope so - otherwise it appears to be a justification for
> > .... just about anything. As in "my karma made me do it".
> > - Curt
> >
> > Gad Horowitz wrote:
> >
> > >speaking of karma, here is a nice quotation from Shinran:
> > >"Because you lack the karmic necessity to kill even a single person,
> you
> do
> > >not commit murder. That is why you do not kill, not because YOU are
> GOOD.
> > >On the other hand, even though you did not want to kill, it may so
> happen
> > >that you nevertheless kill hundreds or thousands of people>" and he
> would
> > >apply this to Rumsfeld, Rove, and me and thee, would he not?
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Richard P. Hayes" <rhayes at unm.edu>
> > >To: "Buddhist discussion forum" <buddha-l at mailman.swcp.com>
> > >Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 7:47 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [Buddha-l] Silence of the List
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 09:21 -0500, curt wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>I thought we were all busy writing thank you notes to Patrick
> Fitzgerald
> > >>>and Joseph Wilson.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>No thank you notes are in order until Karl Rove is behind bars at
> > >>Guantánamo and Don Rumsfeld is locked up with a room full of dogs in
> Abu
> > >>Ghraib. As Robert Dylan almost said "It's karma-vipaaka that we need
> to
> > >>get back to work again."
>
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